Archangel Zero
Mature loser
All is meaningless without it's opposite.
Posts: 141
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Post by Archangel Zero on Dec 7, 2003 15:14:39 GMT -5
I'd like to feel loved and apreciated too you know. I put a lot of effort into this kind of stuff and all I get as thanks is a big fat load of bullshit. I'm trying to run a decent campaign but my players are too immature to roleplay properly and every time I make a ruling I have to endure a half hour of whining. Then, I'm trying to help Banzai keep this community organised by policing my own section of the forum and people shit on me because they're to goddamn irresponsible to take the blame for their mistakes. I'm not still posting here because I'm a masochist, I'm here because no matter how stupid you people can be I still love and respect you guys but one day I WILL SNAP, I'm a man not a punching bag. If you don't agree with me, don't whine and scream, PROVE ME WRONG.
I am dead serious, I'm not gonna take much more of this kind of crap.
I know this is coming out late, but it remains pertinent.
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Post by Banzai Kamikaze on Dec 7, 2003 15:31:11 GMT -5
Did I miss something? Who whined and screamed at you? In any case, I don't think you are a particular punching bag. All Gms are, except in a utopic world where players and Gms always agree.
I'm sure people whined about my Gming in my back, but it is inevitable. That is why I think Gming is very difficult.
A good thing to do is NOT to talk in the back of the GM, but to clearly show why you don't agree with something he does. That's partly what this forum is for isn't it? If someone disagrees with the way a GM acts, please tell him or make a post. Hiding it is not useful for anyone...
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Archangel Zero
Mature loser
All is meaningless without it's opposite.
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Post by Archangel Zero on Dec 7, 2003 16:46:13 GMT -5
Youssef, Flax, FX, mostly. You can't deny however that the players in my campaign are particularly unruly. Remember why I killed Flax's character?
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Post by Flax on Dec 7, 2003 16:57:16 GMT -5
I do actually remember, because you were pissed about Youssef. I dont want to start an argument over this but I could say the same about you in my game, thus explaining why I burned out in my post I, DM or not. There seems to be a need for a discussion with the players and the DM. Anyhow if you think I am too disruptive, then I don't understand why you were ok with my returning to your game...
Oh and if you're talking about my lack of roleplay with the merc, please message me.
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Archangel Zero
Mature loser
All is meaningless without it's opposite.
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Post by Archangel Zero on Dec 7, 2003 17:22:08 GMT -5
I wasn't in your game! WTF Unless you're talking about the one with FX a long long time ago when I was depressed because I felt my character was pointless?
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Post by Flax on Dec 7, 2003 17:31:12 GMT -5
Yes that one, its the only one I did. Like I said I don't want to start an argument so talk to me if you don't understand.
I hate to brake it to you this way, but you disrupt a game too, by always checking the phb when the DM makes a call, among other things...
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Archangel Zero
Mature loser
All is meaningless without it's opposite.
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Post by Archangel Zero on Dec 7, 2003 17:52:12 GMT -5
It's true, I do, I'm going to try to stop doing it.
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Aficenos
Childish Geek
enjoy!!!!
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Post by Aficenos on Dec 9, 2003 21:43:49 GMT -5
"la vie est belle"
Lets start with the simple part : M. Pierre I strongly beleive that you have no idea what you are talking about. I have never spoken in youre back about youre Dmin I have done it in youre face because I feel that youre ruling are sometimes harsh and illogical but that is my opinion and youre the DM and thus you are the boss.
Now as for the ingame its a bit more comlplex: When you come down to it a charcter is what a player makes it, now if me as a player decides that my char wants to try and dominate a village you should have no reason to be angry considering that its my char and that I am not doing anything truly destructive to the campaign such as breaking up a group or randomly killing civilians wich could make the campaign go really ugly. Sticking to one start story is stupid consideroing u cannot put a persons entire existence on one page and that certain things may make a person act in any way so you should consoider the info you ask of us as nothing more than a concept what the charcter becomes or how he is played is ultimatly up to the player and youre control on that is truly limited to how he affects the game in general and if that affection is truly destructive than come the pegorative to act.
Now finally when it comes to my unruliness within a game for that I am sorry, my argumentation over XP is totally unacceptable and wrong and it is not my place as a player to question a DM's decision and I hope you can accept my excuses
I hope this short text makes my situation clearer to everybody and makes you rethink youre opinion of myself as a player
Thank you for youre time
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Post by Flax on Dec 9, 2003 21:56:09 GMT -5
Pierre, we love you ( as friends ) , sure we have some misunderstandings but it is not always our faults or yours, everyone makes mistakes but it would help if you would look at us with less and with more . Please do not think we are trying to destroy you're campaign, we are just sometimes at odds with your rules. P.S. If you were DMing my campaign you would probably await the players with trip mines, rockets, AK-47s and a Battleship. Just joking, and keep a smile .
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Rouroux
Master Jedi Poster
"Just try me"
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Post by Rouroux on Dec 10, 2003 0:03:30 GMT -5
Maybe I was not in your campaign Pierre...
But I love and apreciate you, like everyone else does!
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Archangel Zero
Mature loser
All is meaningless without it's opposite.
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Post by Archangel Zero on Dec 12, 2003 17:13:46 GMT -5
M. Youssef,
1. I never said you talked about my GMing in my back. I said you whine and scream.
2. The problem is not that your character changes, it's that you make dramatic changes each game. Think on this: How the f**k do you expect me to write a fun game when I cannot predict ANY of your actions? Your concept is a tool for me to make a little thing called a PLOT HOOK, so that I can have something prepared for a game instead of making it up on the fly. If you’re looking for a game on the fly, go look somewhere else.
3. I agree that I shouldn't try to predict everything, and if I don't tell you when I change my "straight line story" because of character actions doesn't mean it never happens.
4. Could someone please explain to me how trying to dominate a village is justifiable when the character concept was along the freedom fighter lines.
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